Finally, I was able to increase my LSAT score significantly on a practice test I took yesterday. I'm actually nearing an acceptable range now, I believe... I still have a long way to go if I want to reach my goal of being close to the 99th percentile, but at least I'm sure now that I won't feel like a moron when I get my score.
At work last week, I wrote a script to prevent me from launching IE after a certain time of day; the change was immediately apparent. I guess I'm an information junkie...
[Update: Reply to deleted message]
I must say I feel for you after taking the test myself, but there are a number of things you should consider.
First, most law schools will simply average all of your scores to get a final LSAT number to consider. If you scored 134, 137, and 155, there are two things that could happen. A school might disregard the previous two scores and consider only the last one, since it is so utterly different as to indicate that the first two were not a good reflection of your abilities. It is more probable though, that they would simply average the scores, in which case you would not be that much better off in the end.
If you suspect that a mistake has been made in scoring, you may contact the LSAT people and find out how to make a proper claim. I suspect though, that with your history, you simply returned to old habits and unfortunately got the same score on this one as well.
It is also possible that this test was particularly hard compared with other years. If this is the case, others' scores will be lower as well, and you will end up in the same percentile ranking as you would otherwise...
If you feel strongly about it, you must contact the group that administers the LSAT and talk with them.
Good luck :)
looking for lsat tutor for 12/7/02. anyone?
Posted by: davd schmidt at December 4, 2002 11:34 PM
does anyone know how we get our lsat scores once we've taken the test and how long it takes to get it? please email me at alimal68@hotmail.com if you know. I'd REALLY appreciate it. Thanks
Posted by: alisha at December 12, 2002 06:43 PM
I am there in the boat with you. I took practice test after practice test and never made below 150. On the real LSAT I scored 145. This sucks. I studied so hard.
Posted by: Sean N. at January 9, 2003 01:21 AM
I'm an older person (mid 30s) trying to get into law school. My test date is in June. I've been practicing for the past 5 weeks. I'm having trouble scoring well with the analytical questions. Does anyone have any suggestions for a specific study guide that can help me improve my score in that area? I've taken 2 sample tests so far and scored 155 on each test. The problem is I'm only getting 10 questions right on the analytical portion. If I can improve on this, I can significantly increase my score. Thanks in advance for any help.
Posted by: Arlene at February 5, 2003 02:05 PM
Hey, everybody, this is my first time here. I am a Chinese, I came here 2 years ago. i studied LSAT for several weeks, and my problem is in reading section. But I dont have many problems with my Analytical section, I think this tells us a way to study LSAT. Most Chinese students dont have problems with this section becoz they have been trained very strictly in Mathmetics in their whole primary school and middle school education no matter they love or not; but US students dont have to deal with those math problems if they dont want to. So I think if you guys wanna make full score in analytical section, you can do some math practice, it really helps very much. To me, I hope I can get some advice for a foreigner to read, to improve reading speed and the ability to comprehend the article.Thanks
Posted by: JUNE at March 24, 2003 11:47 PM
I suggest taking an LSAT preparation course if you're not a native English speaker... It will probably help you quite a lot. You should also go through as many practice tests as you can... :)
Posted by: Trevor Hill at March 26, 2003 03:41 AM
dude, i studied so hard for my lsat. on every practice test i scored above 160. i just got my scores back and i got a 145--DAMN! i have no idea how this happened and feel really crappy right now. does anyone know of any good schools i could go to with a 145?
Posted by: shit at April 7, 2003 02:26 AM
People!
I desperately need help. I scored 141 on Feb 03 LSAT. I need 150 in oreder to get into decent law school in my area. Originally I am from CA, and there is no problem finding tutor there. I had a wonderful tutor who was able to bring my score from 131 to 141. Now I need 9-10 points more. I live in SC now. There is Kaplan tutors here as well as review.Also Princeton review. That is all choice we have here. Do you know anything about Kaplan or Princeton review??? Is it worth to spend 2000 on them? Do you know any private tutor in that area as well? Please give me a call at 803-309-1071. I am trying to take October test, so that is why I am so desperate. Thanks a lot,
Lilly
Posted by: lilly at April 25, 2003 09:54 AM
Hey!
It is Lilly who posted the above message. You can also e-mail me at lilly4450@msn.com. Thanks
Posted by: lilly at April 25, 2003 09:58 AM
hey lilly. according to my intel, kaplen is much better then review for Lsat. i took review and they sucked. kaplan is really good at teaching all the stuff
Posted by: shit at May 4, 2003 01:18 PM
wow. I am worried after reading all these posts. I have been taking lots of practice tests and scoring widely between 150-160, but only once beat 160. I am having some trouble with the analytical section. I bought a great book that showed examples of diagram/chart techniques but they are only good for the more basic questions. I am having a lot of difficulty with the scheduling games and other games with multiple elements. I am very good at applying gaming techniques once I see examples of them, but I have been unable to find sample systems of charting for questions with multiple elements. Does anyone know of a good book or have any suggestions. I definitely cannot afford to take a course. Thanks..
mj
Posted by: mj at May 6, 2003 08:16 PM
Hi people,
Today is May 16 2003, and I have less then 4 weeks to study for my LSAT exam. I am writing on June 9th. I have been studying since Mid-April. But on all my practice tests I keep getting 140-145, thats it. Never Higher, never lower.
How can i improve my score, i need a minimum 155 to get into a law school, preferably a 160.
My WORST section is Logical Reasoning. I am horrible at it. I must improve !
. Second worst is Reading Comp. And as sick as it may sound, my best section is Analytical (a.k.a Logic Games)
Please send any suggestions or ideas to
NickM242@hotmail.com ASAP.
Thank you all !
Posted by: Nick at May 17, 2003 11:09 AM
Thank you, guys...Thanks a lot who called me. Unfortunately, in my area we do not have Testmasters. I wish... I posted the ad in local Law School and I got couple of calls from people who want to tutor me. I haven't met them. But they seem to be very nice people. So, we'll see
Posted by: lilly at May 20, 2003 08:55 AM
I'm also studying for the June 2003 LSAT. I've been doing fairly well on the practice tests...although reading that someone did well on those but not on the real thing is a bit scary.
For practicing the games...and all the sections...I've been using the LSAT 180 book from Kaplan. I have a couple others, but this one has been the best for me in all the sections.
I took the field test in March, and knew from that that Logic Reasoning was something I needed to work on. The book really helped with that.
I've also got "10 more practice LSATs", and have been doing a timed test a day. That's helped a bit to allay test anxiety. Plus I review the ones I've missed to get a feel for the types of things I'm missing, and why.
The LSAT 180 book covers a good variety of logic games, also. That's been helpful.
G'luck to all!
Posted by: Sue at June 3, 2003 10:10 PM
I used that book as well, and I thought it was fairly good, but I needed more intense practice as well.
So I found another book that was full of a bunch of insane problems, way harder than actually appear on the LSAT... Doing this helped me push my level to the point where the LSAT questions didn't seem that difficult anymore....
I also used the regular practice LSATs for timing and pacing... All in all, it worked out pretty well. :)
Posted by: Trevor Hill at June 4, 2003 08:34 AM
If it makes you guys feel any better... I'm at work right now (its 1:46 am Eastern) and at 7 am I will be leaving early to drive to Coconut Creek (3 1/2 hours away, kinda by Miami... I live in Orlando- sign up EARLY!) to take the test... I only took one sample test, and I got a 168, which I decided was about as high as I was going. So, when I call up in three weeks and find out I got a 142 I won't be too disappointed. On the other hand I also have a sub 3.0 GPA (at the University of Central Florida- not exactly Harvard) so anything less than a 165 will pretty much put paid to my law school plans...
Posted by: Neil at June 9, 2003 01:47 AM
Hey, I just took the LSAT and was wondering what everyone thought about it. I thought the one Logic games question about connecting different cities by airplane was really hard and I probably didn't get those right. But the reading comprehension seemed surprisingly interesting (or maybe i was too delusional by that point to fairly judge). Reasoning sections were ok. What did everyone think?
Posted by: Jamie at June 9, 2003 09:44 PM
I took yesterday's LSAT too and was wondering if anyone had only one game section and what games they had. I had two and am trying to figure out which one was experimental so I can decide whether or not to cancel my score. Does anyone remember the games from a single game section test?
Posted by: Liza at June 10, 2003 03:31 PM
Please do not try to guess which section is unscored!!!!!
There is NO WAY you can tell, so you really could just be screwing yourself. It's a tough gamble. If there were 2 games sections, obviously one is unscored, so if you did very poorly on BOTH, you could reasonably expect to have a bad score... But even then, doing poorly on one section does not necessarily mean you will get a bad score overall...
If you cancel your score, remember, you have to take the entire test again!
Posted by: Trevor Hill at June 10, 2003 04:31 PM
Hey Liza,
I had only one logic games section. The one that counts had the recipe game first, with sequencing onions, mushrooms, lentils, etc. Then, another game (I can't remember it now). The third game was the connecting flights from cities that I thought was the hardest. The fourth one I though was the easiest...you just had to figure out which 3 animals out of the 6 were chosen in different situations. I hope this helps...what did you think about the test? Also-I had 3 logical reasoning sections...I wonder if you could help me figure out which ones counted? It might be tough. Good luck. :)
Posted by: jamie at June 10, 2003 04:32 PM
Trevor-
can't she tell which counted by comparing it to the test I took? i thought everyone takes the same test...the same 4 sections just w/a diff. exp. section??
Posted by: jamie at June 10, 2003 04:35 PM
That might be true, but you'd have to be sure of two things:
1. The questions on the "real" games section are the same for each test taker.
2. You remember exactly which questions were on each separate section... Remember, some experimental questions could be similar to the real questions as well...
I guess if those 2 things are true, you might be able to figure it out... But it's still pretty iffy...
Posted by: Trevor Hill at June 10, 2003 05:52 PM
Jamie,
Thanks for the response! I found the connecting flights problem a bit challenging too. It does help to know which section was experimental though (you're right about everyone taking the same 4 sections and having a random experimental one). Unfortunately, I spent a little too much time on the third RC passage and had to guess on the last one so I'm thinking about taking it again in Oct. Overall, however, I found the exam to be what I expected and not very difficult except for the time factor. As for the argument sections, I don't think I could possibly recall which ones I took. They were far too similar.
Posted by: Anonymous at June 10, 2003 06:03 PM
did anyone think the games were a bit challenging? the only one i got completely right was the last on on the animals. i could only solve the first two questions of the other three games. the soup, people, and planes games. i hope that im not alone. i am considering score cancellation.
Posted by: thom at June 10, 2003 11:00 PM
Ok, guys!
You've posted so many comments here that I can see you would like a better forum for your discussion.
I'm going to be closing comments on this post, and redirecting you to my forum, where I've added a category for discussion of LSAT issues.
Let me know if you have any other suggestions. :)
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